Batman Begins.

thecreeper · 06-17-2005, 05:09 PM

it was long enough, it just took too long to tell too short of a story. the script must have been about 15 pages. and i really hated chris rock and ben stiller in it. there was zero chemistry there.

at least the penguins were funny.

GT2000 · 06-18-2005, 06:15 AM

"Should we tell them the boat's out of gas?"

"Just wave and smile boys."

Yeah, the penguins were good.

thecreeper · 06-19-2005, 02:33 AM

just got back from a showing of batman begins awhile ago. it was some excellent cinema. DC obviously knew they needed a good film here and really delivered. everything turned out good or better than i thought. even the scarecrow was great.

raublekick · 06-19-2005, 10:04 AM

so rate this with the other batmans, because i my eyes they all went downhill after the first. the first is a good movie in my eyes, good actors who portray the characters well, and it's not jokey. batman returns is kinda the same but i don't like it quite as much. after that it just turns into a not-so-serious attempt at cashing in.

thecreeper · 06-19-2005, 10:31 AM

1. batman begins
2. batman

those are the only real batman movies.

the reason i like the new batman better is that christopher nolan captured a city that was believable in its corruption. it wasn't like tim burton's over the top Gotham that was a caricature with its violence and villains, Gotham in this was a real city that was being torn apart by mob bosses and crime lords. Money was the motivating factor for why the town was shit, and Batman believed that the town could be saved from its greed. he wanted justice, and that's what made Christian Bale an awesome Batman. He was scary, he was able to play the asshole millionaire and the fearless caped crusader with no problem. and we finally get a movie about Bruce Wayne, not a villain centric story. The last 4 batmans were always about the villains. This movie was about why bruce wayne is who he is, and they believeably explain how he get the batcave, the car, and all the gadgets. gary oldman plays a great lt. gordon and even katie holmes plays a pretty good role. in addition, you get great car chases, hard-hitting fight scenes, a great scarecrow, and some great Ra's Al Ghoul scenes.

testtubebaby · 06-19-2005, 10:35 AM

it's a good story, and the direction and acting are great, but no one can live up to the awesomeness of keaton.

when my girlfriend and i were talking about it, i said that while the older batman movies felt more comicbooky (you know... over the top acting and obviously fabricated sets), the new one feels more like a bid for mainstream cinema... so, take it as you like. i'm still partial to the keaton/nicholson/burton vision, but this one was definatly second place (no, i didn't like returns that much)

thecreeper · 06-19-2005, 10:41 AM

i like burton, i just never preferred his vision of batman. i never thought it was a good match, and keaton was a good bruce wayne but not an intimidating batman.

06-17-2005, 05:09 PM	#1
thecreeper Administrator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 2,330	it was long enough, it just took too long to tell too short of a story. the script must have been about 15 pages. and i really hated chris rock and ben stiller in it. there was zero chemistry there. at least the penguins were funny. __________________ good-evil.net - ahh, wade boggs...goes down smooth.

06-18-2005, 06:15 AM	#2
GT2000 Playing God @ Your Xpense Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Va Beach, Va Posts: 2,040	"Should we tell them the boat's out of gas?" "Just wave and smile boys." Yeah, the penguins were good. __________________ Hop in, strap down, and hold on tight.

06-19-2005, 02:33 AM	#3
thecreeper Administrator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 2,330	just got back from a showing of batman begins awhile ago. it was some excellent cinema. DC obviously knew they needed a good film here and really delivered. everything turned out good or better than i thought. even the scarecrow was great. __________________ good-evil.net - ahh, wade boggs...goes down smooth.

06-19-2005, 10:04 AM	#4
raublekick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancastuh, PA Posts: 1,678	so rate this with the other batmans, because i my eyes they all went downhill after the first. the first is a good movie in my eyes, good actors who portray the characters well, and it's not jokey. batman returns is kinda the same but i don't like it quite as much. after that it just turns into a not-so-serious attempt at cashing in. __________________ http://www.good-evil.net slap that bitch, sell her coke

06-19-2005, 10:31 AM	#5
thecreeper Administrator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 2,330	1. batman begins 2. batman those are the only real batman movies. the reason i like the new batman better is that christopher nolan captured a city that was believable in its corruption. it wasn't like tim burton's over the top Gotham that was a caricature with its violence and villains, Gotham in this was a real city that was being torn apart by mob bosses and crime lords. Money was the motivating factor for why the town was shit, and Batman believed that the town could be saved from its greed. he wanted justice, and that's what made Christian Bale an awesome Batman. He was scary, he was able to play the asshole millionaire and the fearless caped crusader with no problem. and we finally get a movie about Bruce Wayne, not a villain centric story. The last 4 batmans were always about the villains. This movie was about why bruce wayne is who he is, and they believeably explain how he get the batcave, the car, and all the gadgets. gary oldman plays a great lt. gordon and even katie holmes plays a pretty good role. in addition, you get great car chases, hard-hitting fight scenes, a great scarecrow, and some great Ra's Al Ghoul scenes. __________________ good-evil.net - ahh, wade boggs...goes down smooth. Last edited by thecreeper : 06-19-2005 at 10:40 AM.

06-19-2005, 10:35 AM	#6
testtubebaby Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 631	it's a good story, and the direction and acting are great, but no one can live up to the awesomeness of keaton. when my girlfriend and i were talking about it, i said that while the older batman movies felt more comicbooky (you know... over the top acting and obviously fabricated sets), the new one feels more like a bid for mainstream cinema... so, take it as you like. i'm still partial to the keaton/nicholson/burton vision, but this one was definatly second place (no, i didn't like returns that much)

06-19-2005, 10:41 AM	#7
thecreeper Administrator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 2,330	i like burton, i just never preferred his vision of batman. i never thought it was a good match, and keaton was a good bruce wayne but not an intimidating batman. __________________ good-evil.net - ahh, wade boggs...goes down smooth.

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