"i hear good things about the pale ales..."

Yea they're awesome. My favorite beer right now.

That sucks not being able to use the money.

well i was going to foolishly throw thousand-dollar bills your way, but since i'm not using it wisely i guess it's not worth anything to you... :wink:

A penny saved is a penny earned!

it's true. i saved my pennies i randomly had from around the house and in my pockets from circa 1988-2003 and ended up with $83 in pennies.

still dont think it was worth it, but hey, free money.

i'm more or less self-sufficient by now. just need to get some serious education then i'll be set. i just wish i was 18, because then i could sign for my own appartment. right now... i can't.. and it's making me mad that i still have to live at home.

i can sign for my own apartment, i just can't afford it... i can't afford an apartment with multiple roommates either :evil:

maybe you should try living in a shoe, raub.

or some sort of cardboard shanty.

don't listen to him, me and raub and the rest of the good-evil crew are all gonna live together one day and be all happy and gay and such.

..in a really big cardboard shanty? you could even make a good-evil shanty community. i could build a fort there out of sticks, but i don't have any cardboard right now..

Yeah, sometimes people ask me why I'm still at home, and they scratch their heads when I tell them how much a month I drop on bills. I could afford an apartment @ around $700-900/mo by myself, but I would have to eat ramen on a daily basis, so instead I choose to have cheap rent, save a bunch of money in the bank for now while I pay off my debts, and eat well.

Yeah as much as living at home sucks, I don't have any debt or anything like that. I haven't taken any loans for school (just State and Federal Aid), and I don't have a credit card.

I'm a "Software Specialist"...which means "everyone's bitch"...it's great!

Never move out. I just got a new car, and life would be a lot easier if I didn't have to pay rent/groceries/utilities/whores...it's nice to live on your own and all, but don't be in too big a hurry.

...unless you're a pre-teen billionaire...

But only if you've asked the internet, and it agrees.

with the amount i'm making now i could afford an apartment at $900 a month, and eat well... i'd lose some little luxuries for a little while, since i'd need to buy a bed, couch, ect. ect... but i wouldn't have to tap into my savings at all.

being at home when your parents like you is one thing, being at home when you get death stares every other second, and you never know if there's gonna be a fist in your face, or a foot up your ass.. that's entirely different.

my non-biological parents will let me re-do the basement, and make it almost an apartment... there's a seperate entrance and whatnot.. so i'd never see them. that's looking like my best bet besides moving in with my biological parents, but that'd involve switching schools, and possibly damaging their younger children. i couldn't imagine that.. being like.. 3 or four, and having this girl who's babysat for you come live, and your parents having to explain that? i can't do that to them. i love my brothers and sisters too much, and i don't know how well i could get along with my biological parents for long periods of time. there's still that awkward "you didn't keep me" wall between us...

anyway. i'm working it out. basement seems like the best idea, as of now.