opinions!?

[Liss]

so....

what defines "sex" between two females?

[Mr Biglesworth]

lol, ah Liss, no!
*jealous*
but umm... good question... i would say that there's a similar trifurcation as with hetrosexual sex...
1 - heavy petting, tongue kissing, etc
2 - oral sex (for lesbo's i'd include intense nipple licking as oral sex, i think)... but i think eating out could count both as oral sex and normal sex, depending on intensity. Like if you just go down on a girl and give her head, that's just oral sex, but if you both get naked and there's lots of additional heavy petting and kissing and loving and 69'ing, that's sex. I guess the same goes for fingering and toy usage.
3. The above mentioned oral/digital/dildo sex... and if it's a double headed dildo it's definitely sex.


how's that sound? i think the line definitely gets blurred between oral sex and just sex, depending on the situation.


...why?

[malta]

Whenever genitals are involved for either partner, I consider it sex, though thats probably technically wrong.

[Mr Biglesworth]

what about when i have dreams of your genitals?

[Torre82]

...

This usually does.

[Mike]

"Sex" would be anything using a sexual organ. Intercourse, on the other hand, presumes genital penetration ... and they do not have the right genitals to penetrate.

So, strict lesbians can have "Sex" by performing an act on or with a sexual organ. They cannot have sexual intercourse, though, biologically.

[Mr Biglesworth]

But they can always make love.

[Liss]

lol, ah Liss, no!
*jealous*


Didn't your mother teach you that you shouldn't jump to conclusions?

This weekend I attended part 2 of my best friend's "Wine and Lesbian Marathon Party." It's not nearly as exciting as it may sound: there is a showtime television series called "The L Word" and we are now in the middle of season 2 of the lives of a dozen lesbians in Hollywood.

With the combination of much too much wine and the fact that there are hetero, bi, and homo girls, and hetero guys in presence of a television showing explicit scenes spurs many debates about whether the phrase "I want to/can I/I will fuck you" is legitimate when exchanged between females. I am now expanding the issue globally out of curiousity. Everyone tends to give a different opinion. We argued for hours and I think I blacked out after drinking a bottle and a half of wine (I've never done that before, very scary!), but the debate continued the following morning.

[Torre82]

I.
Like.
Fish.

Would you say that the guys in Queer as Folk *F* each other? Depending on your answer, the whole sex thing can only be legal by definition.. between male and fishmale.

Like lesbian sex is harmless and gay sex is messy and dangerous. The whole fluid and true-penetration thing makes all the difference.

[Liss]

The penetration is the whole question. Like one of the girls refers to herself as a virgin because she's never had sex with a guy; yet she states herself that she has had sex with numerous girls. So is she really a virgin?

[Mr Biglesworth]

where the hell is jep?

[raditz]

ssshhhhh .... it'll hear you

[Jesse]

Dykes are gay.

[Torre82]

She's a virgin if she's still into guys. She's a dyke if she's a dyke. But then again theres that whole hymen issue. If its gone, then thats also a safe bet that shes not a virgin... because someone could lose it to an errant finger or gearshift and still 'not have sex'. Also, could you answer and ask each question or answer with just the slightest hint of sultry and naive schoolgirl, please? Thanks so much. *fap x100*

Neil? Hymen's and Hyman's, please.

[Mr Biglesworth]

I"m still trying to resolve the Hyman issue, personally

[Liss]

The hymen has nothing to do with virginity, because most girls use tampons. The Hyman, I fear, has nothing to do with sexual intercourse in any way.

:)

[Mr Biglesworth]

What? I have EVERYTHING to do with sexual intercourse!
Especially with you, sweet thang

[Torre82]

You guys are married, after all. Same as... me and two women.. Stormy being the first.. :sigh: Man, youth was a strange time.

I gotta say, I'd still bang you or even knock a few knuckle children off to you anytime, 'Melia.

[Stormy]

The hymen has nothing to do with virginity, because most girls use tampons. The Hyman, I fear, has nothing to do with sexual intercourse in any way.

:)
I never busted my hymen until intercourse, even though I rode horses for a year, and generally used tampons. I only see tampons as a problem is people consider first penetration to be the loss of virginity.

[Mr Biglesworth]

Yeah I bled upon intercourse too

[Liss]

Apparently mine was no longer intact by the time I lost my virginity. I can only think to blame tampons.

But wait, so we're saying that ANY sexual interraction is sex with females, just they can't have intercourse right? That's fine and all, but what frustrates me is that none of that matters with a guy and girl OR a guy and a guy and sex and only sex is considered sex...in those scenarios. I just don't get how it all works.

I suppose there are reasons I waited so long to start having sex.

[heX]

opinions!?

youre a dyke...

*swoosh* 2 points for me

[squirrels2nuts]

tough question... how bout you start making out with a girl and i'll tell you when i think it's sex?
if suckin titties is sex, congrats on doin' yer mom.
id say it starts with fingerbangin, false phallacies, or the use of cunning tongue-in-cheek linguistics.
the more important question is, when's it end?

[Torre82]

I suppose the safest thing to say is also the truest. There is no set rule for lesbians. It depends on the individual. Like religion, everybody believes something different and noone will agree.

Never did care for girly-girly, tho. Wanna concentrate on just one.

[malta]

Speaking of sex, I havn't beat it for like a week. Later guys.

[Torre82]

Yeah... you know you wanna.

[Mr Biglesworth]

Not Bad Bun, but a little bit of clone stamp can fix embarrassing gaps in the skull or extra ears

[Torre82]

what, I was going for 1 minute campy-editing. I felt the nose would be a problem, but.. well.. you cant see much else besides 3 lesbians.

[squirrels2nuts]

hahaha... thats only funny because its so terribly executed.

[Liss]

ah hem.

Bunny, as much as you claim to have a life now, you still obviously do not.

[Torre82]

Hey, better pay means more time off. ;)

Seriously, if I felt like putting ten minutes into an edit.. (which isnt all that much) one could make a very reasonable fake. Sadly, I only have a few pics of you.. so thats not the easiest thing to do.

fattie!

[Liss]

wtf? fattie?!

.....bastard!

[Stormy]

He means pretty, Liss.

[Torre82]

And you! You vain dyke! My sony VirginiaCam caught you. 'Fess up.

However... I might consider you pretty if you were to post more pics...

[squirrels2nuts]

And you! You vain dyke! My sony VirginiaCam caught you. 'Fess up.

However... I might consider you pretty if you were to post more pics...

ah yes, we all yearn for the approval of the great lord bunny. :rolleyes:
i should cut you up and shoot adrenaline into your intestines like i did to other bunnies yesterday

[thecreeper]

He means pretty, Liss.
kinda like when a guy beats you and says he means he loves you.

works just like that.

[malta]

and every time!

[Stormy]

Liss and I, we don't need any men.

[thecreeper]

i like where this is going.

[Liss]

Liss and I, we don't need any men.

especially not bunny.

is he a man?

[Torre82]

Naw. I'm a girl. A BUTCH girl. Pay no attention while I indulge my lesbianic tendencies.

[Plain Old Jane]

here I am!

Sex, fucking, or making love.

fucking is just like masturbating with another person, cuz theres no other point to fucking than getting off.

sex is an intimate act that binds people together, it involves feelings and intense emotions. I would say this is more of an act between two people in a relationship. It sort of strengthens a bond, preparing it for long term relationship ties. A lot of feelings and thoughts can be conveyed during sex.

Making love is far more intense than sex, and infinitly moreso than just fucking. There are actually different chemical levels of hormones that glands in the brain produce for different states of binding between two people. When you see someone and you just feel giddy around them, when you're with someone and you cant wait til you two are alone together, when you're 35 and the thought of being without your spouse makes you feel pain. Those are all different influences from these hormones. Making love is like forging those long term ones. Its intense and beautiful and impossible for some people to do.

(for more info on those hormones, get me on aim, ill send you Bill Nye's new series Eyes of Nye on Sex)

Sex (in the broad sense of intercourse) between two women is basically one of these three. i would say intense intimacy and mutual pleasing would be a genuine sign of sex between two women. It involves those ethereal kinds of things like thoughts and feelings because thats where most of the libido is in women and to a statistically lesser degree in men. To account for fucking, i would definitly say theres a physical aspect to it, nerves and clits and stuff.

in summation: i would say feelings of intimacy and physical pleasing entail sex betwixt two women. barring that, you dont need a cock to fuck someone.

Disclaimer: IMHO

[Mike]

I am not tollerant of gay people :(

[heX]

here I am!

Sex, fucking, or making love.

fucking is just like masturbating with another person, cuz theres no other point to fucking than getting off.

sex is an intimate act that binds people together, it involves feelings and intense emotions. I would say this is more of an act between two people in a relationship. It sort of strengthens a bond, preparing it for long term relationship ties. A lot of feelings and thoughts can be conveyed during sex.

Making love is far more intense than sex, and infinitly moreso than just fucking. There are actually different chemical levels of hormones that glands in the brain produce for different states of binding between two people. When you see someone and you just feel giddy around them, when you're with someone and you cant wait til you two are alone together, when you're 35 and the thought of being without your spouse makes you feel pain. Those are all different influences from these hormones. Making love is like forging those long term ones. Its intense and beautiful and impossible for some people to do.

(for more info on those hormones, get me on aim, ill send you Bill Nye's new series Eyes of Nye on Sex)

Sex (in the broad sense of intercourse) between two women is basically one of these three. i would say intense intimacy and mutual pleasing would be a genuine sign of sex between two women. It involves those ethereal kinds of things like thoughts and feelings because thats where most of the libido is in women and to a statistically lesser degree in men. To account for fucking, i would definitly say theres a physical aspect to it, nerves and clits and stuff.

in summation: i would say feelings of intimacy and physical pleasing entail sex betwixt two women. barring that, you dont need a cock to fuck someone.

Disclaimer: IMHO

the master of all things having to do with sex.. i guess you become fairly opiniated when you yourself dont know what the fuck is going on below your waist.

[Liss]

at least he gave a more legit viewpoint than "you're a dyke" eh, hexiepoo?

[malta]

hoes, take off your clothes
hoes, get naked

[heX]

at least he gave a more legit viewpoint than "you're a dyke" eh, hexiepoo?

as far as i can tell in the years youve been here youve never made an attempt to have sex with one male here. i mean a real attempt not a half-ass one. since we are all so attractive it brought me to one conclusion...

if the shoe fits, youre a dyke.

[johnny]

the dyke shoe.

[Torre82]

Dyke is more fun to say than fag.

Dyke shoe... fag shoe..

Dykeface... faghat..

We're gonna make a dyke on that hill. Pass me a fag, willya?

Hm. I know I like this topic. Its dykey.

[squirrels2nuts]

:P<