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GT2000
05-30-2005, 12:27 PM
I don't really have to say much to introduce this article, someone really has some console-driven anger.

http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/manifesto.html

thecreeper
05-30-2005, 03:34 PM
most of that i heartily agree with, but the save anywhere thing is pretty bullshit.

raublekick
05-30-2005, 06:14 PM
yeah a lot of that stuff would be cool IN SOME GAMES, but utterly lame in others. the "no health bars, scores, etc..." thing bothers me, but it could work in some cases.

Plain Old Jane
05-30-2005, 07:59 PM
"Instant-Failure Stealth Levels. Ack. This brings back horrible memories of a Goldeneye level where if you tripped an alarm, an infinite number of bad guys poured forth. We knew a man who failed that level 37 times, then got the Infinite Health cheat for it and came back. He intentionally tripped the alarm, the guards rushed out. Laughing maniacally, he proceeded to shoot those fuckers for four hours, killing 1,183 of them - 682 with groin shots - before his thumbs cramped up. Your game should not create this kind of bitterness."

Oh god... that was a VERY satisfying level...

testtubebaby
05-30-2005, 09:58 PM
i just read that from the link on /.

i agree with pretty much everything, and the crate issue is pretty much the funniest/dead on.

Plain Old Jane
05-31-2005, 07:33 PM
I like the point about save points, its very true, I fought my way through FF8 through the same level and in addition to the faked graphics >.< that was also talked about. Anyway, i recall another annoying stealth thing, in Deus Ex and there was some in metal gear solid.

btw, my avatar is from the original Clock Tower, the like, FIRST survival horrow game, I highly suggest downloadenation, its legal cuz only its sequels are liscensed in America. you can find a translation online easy.

testtubebaby
05-31-2005, 07:44 PM
btw, my avatar is from the original Clock Tower, the like, FIRST survival horrow game

actually, the first (legitimate) SH game is technically Alone in the Dark, though it's kinda cheesy and unfrightening at this point (there are somethings that might make you jump because they pop out of nowhere, but as far as being atmospherically creepy, nope)

I highly suggest downloadenation, its legal cuz only its sequels are liscensed in America. you can find a translation online easy.

three clock tower games came out in the U.S. 1 and 2 for PSX and 3 for PS2... is there one that came before the original for PSX that only released in Japan?

Plain Old Jane
05-31-2005, 10:35 PM
the SNES version was never lisensed in america

edit: i read up on it, it got the final fantasy treatment, CT1 was never released here, our CT1 is really numma 2 on the PSX

testtubebaby
06-01-2005, 08:58 AM
link me, i'm interested

thecreeper
06-01-2005, 12:00 PM
i kinda wanted the 3rd one for PS2 after Capcom got the license.

Plain Old Jane
06-01-2005, 04:15 PM
http://www.rom-world.com/file.php?id=25736

Tips:

1. see anything moving in the room when you enter, run

2. if you hear a sound not unlike a 3 foot long pair of garden sheers opening an closing, run.

3. Examine EVERYTHING, except mirrors

4. The parrot is saying "I'll get you" he is evil, if you free him, he will attempt to destroy you, when you are finished flailing your arms like a big whiney crybaby, get the little shit in the bed sheets

5. The dog in the cave, also evil, you'll need a robe and perfume to get by him.

6. rocks break down weak walls.

7. Use the car keys (found next to the car) on the car three times to drive.

8. he's in the back seat.

9. unless you do something first

raublekick
06-01-2005, 08:50 PM
thanks for ruining the game, ass

thecreeper
06-01-2005, 10:24 PM
seriously, i have no reason to even play it now, asshole.

sharkz
06-02-2005, 06:41 PM
*bandwagon*

Plain Old Jane
06-02-2005, 08:50 PM
yea, thanks for ruining it all, cunt!